After posting Mohammed Omer’s account of his treatment at the hands of Israel’s Shin Beth ten days ago, I was reminded of a passage I had just read in the New Yorker’s excellent profile by Connie Bruck of Freedom’s Watch’s co-founder and biggest financier, multi-billionaire and staunch Likudist, Sheldon Adelson:
“Adelson, whose countenance often suggests that he is spoiling for a fight, takes pride in being an outsider, who has suffered rejection and ridicule but has avenged every slight, many times over. Vindication is sweet, if never quite sufficient…”
“Adelson’s father, a Lithuanian immigrant, was a cabdriver in Boston, and his mother ran a knitting shop from home, in a tenement in Dorchester. Sheldon, his three siblings, and their parents all slept in one room. He and other Jewish boys in the neighborhood were beaten up by Irish youths.”
The last point immediately brought to mind the similar childhood experience of another staunch Likudist, Norman Podhoretz. As he recounted in his famous 1963 Commentary essay, “My Negro Problem — and Ours,” Podhoretz suffered a series of humiliating encounters with “Negro” youths both in schoolyards and other venues close to his predominantly Jewish neighborhood in Brooklyn throughout his childhood. According to a review of Podhoretz’s latest book, ‘World War IV: The Long Struggle Against Islamofascism,’ by Ian Buruma, those encounters, which included beatings, contributed decisively to Podhoretz’s later politics, which Buruma describes as ”the longing for power, for toughness….”
Podhoretz’s original essay, admirable in its honesty, explores the origins of his “fear and hatred” of “Negroes” and finds them in his earliest memories when he could not understand why it was they who “were supposed to be persecuted when it was the Negroes who were doing the only persecuting I knew about — and doing it, moreover, to me. …The Negroes,” he went on, “were tougher than we were, more ruthless, and on the whole better athletes.” It was thus in a confrontation with a Negro gang that Podhoretz underwent his “first nauseating experience of cowardice” that, with it, came the “appalled realization that there are people in the world who do not seem to be afraid of anything, who act as if they have nothing to lose.” To him, Negro life “seemed the very embodiment of the values of the street — free, independent, reckless, brave, masculine, erotic …But, most of all, (Negroes) were tough; beautifully, enviably tough, not giving a damn for anyone or anything” in a world where “sissies” was “the most dreaded epithet of an American boyhood.” (Italics in the original.)
I have been thinking about the relationship between humiliation and the neo-conservative worldview — particularly the rage at much of the world that seems to underlie its more hard-line personifications, such as those of Podhoretz or Adelson or Caroline Glick or, for that matter, Michael Ledeen and Richard Perle — since I first read “My Negro Problem” a long, long time ago. Of course, the latter three were presumably never physically beaten as were Podhoretz or Adelson, but their rage, their obsession with “toughness,” their contempt for softness (diplomacy) and devotion to “hard power” all suggest that they may have suffered their own humiliations.
For example, in Perle’s roman a clef, aptly titled ‘Hard Line,’ you find this description of the childhood of the protagonist, Michael Waterman:
“He had not always been so zealous or so tough. The only jewel in the crown of a Los Angeles kosher butcher named Sam and his wife, Esther, Michael Waterman was born in 1943 and grew up in a two-bedroom, one-bath stucco bungalow on Hayworth Street in the Fairfax section of Los Angeles, equidistant from his father’s shop and the storefront temple where Same went to pray. A slight, precocious child, Michael suffered heavily at the hands of his schoolmates. When most boys his age spent their free time playing baseball, football, or tennis, Michael’s parents insisted, with the best of intentions, on giving him cello lessons four days a week. So during the fifth through eight grades — crucial years for youngsters — Michael Waterman didn’t carry a fielder’s mitt or shoulder pads to school, but a heavy black leather instrument case. Instead of weekends at the beach, he spent his time indoors practicing scales. He was small and perpetually pale and thin and wore orthodontic braces. He was …different. And so his classmates picked on him in the instinctive, impersonal cruel way of preadolescents, and Waterman withdrew like a turtle inside an emotional shell.”
In reality, Perle’s parents were both better off and less pious than depicted in this passage, according to his biographer, Alan Weisman, but I don’t doubt that much of the rest of Perle’s description of “Waterman’s” childhood is a more or less accurate reflection of his own sense of being an outsider, a kind of “sissy” forced to endure cruel and humiliating taunts, even as he later got his revenge by excelling at debate and subsequently at political intrigue in Scoop Jackson’s office and beyond. One has only to look at the remarkably curious and vaguely pathetic sequence in “The Case for War,” his production in last year’s “America at the Crossroads Series” on PBS, when he revisits his high school in Hollywood and draws particular attention to and gazes longingly at the names of its movie-star graduates painted garishly above the lockers in the hallway, as if their glamour and celebrity proved something special about himself. Those few seconds conveyed a much more insecure personality than his Beltway identity as the very embodiment of toughness and a “Hard Line.”
Jacob Heilbrunn’s suggestion of a social, as well as a personal, connection between humiliation and what he correctly calls the neo-conservative “mindset” (as opposed to “ideology”) was, along with his description of the movement’s Trotskyite origins, the most compelling part of his book, ‘They Knew they were Right: The Rise of the Neocons’. “The social exclusion experienced by Jews at the hands of the WASP elite” that persisted in the US well into the 1960s stirred a “deep resentment” among many of the movement’s most influential leaders, notably Irving Kristol and Podhoretz, according to Heilbrunn. Indeed, he notes, Podhoretz has described the neo-conservative movement as the war against the “WASP patriciate.”
Neoconservatives “know that they will never be accepted by the establishment,” Heilbrunn goes on in a later passage about Perle. “Indeed, they outwardly revel in the knowledge that they are outsiders. But beneath the veneer of confidence is a seething rage at the government bureaucracy and social elites.”
That rage is on extravagant display throughout the extremely angry book that Perle wrote with David Frum in 2004, “An End to Evil: How to Win the War on Terror” (as well as on the editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal), in which the authors pour unremitting scorn on the CIA and the State Department (and Europe) for their failure to understand, let alone seriously address, the apocalyptic threat that faces them in the form of what Podhoretz calls “Islamofascism.” And, ironically, in describing the origin of that threat, they cite the centuries of humiliation experienced by the Muslim world at the hands of the West and, more recently, Israel. The 9/11 attack, in their view, was about “restoring injured pride through the destruction of the symbols of an opposing civilization.”
“The Islamic world has lagged further and further behind the Christian West; since 1948, it has repeatedly been humiliated even by the once disdained Jews,” they write. “These defeats and disasters have been more than a wound to Muslims: They directly challenge the truth of Islam itself.” And that in turn has fueled a “murderous rage” throughout the Middle East. “Religious extremists and secular militants; Sunnis and Shiites; communists and fascists – in the Middle East, these categories blend into one another. All gush from the same enormous reservoir of combustible rage.”
Rage deriving from humiliation is a compelling concept, whether the humiliation originates in physical abuse, personal taunts, social exclusion, or membership in a group, nation, or civilization that has been colonized, occupied, or otherwise subdued or dominated by foreign powers. But the last kind of humiliation is certainly not unique to the Islamic or Arab worlds. Indeed, hard-line neo-conservatives — when pressed to elaborate on “why they hate us” — often draw parallels between the causes of “Islamofascism” and the rise of Nazism in a Germany humiliated and enraged by the Treaty of Versailles after World War I. In recent years, they’ve also warned against the threat of a revanchist Russia eager to restore the Soviet empire and its superpower status; the emergence of an aggressive and ultra-nationalist China, determined to avenge the humiliations it has suffered since the 1840 Opium War and reclaim its status as the world’s “Middle Kingdom;” and even the plotting of the perfidious French who, by manipulating the EU to oppose the U.S., can redress, according to neo-con historiography, the undying shame they presumably must feel about both their Nazi collaboration and their subsequent rescue by Anglo-Americans! The message from these examples is clear: those whom one should most fear are those who feel, whether rightly or wrongly, that they have been humiliated and are unwilling to forgive, if not forget.
What is remarkable — and what really struck me when reading “An End to Evil” — is that Jewish neo-conservatives never seem to acknowledge that they, too, may be susceptible to a similar sense of collective historical humiliation — and the rage that it can create — arising from the centuries of abuse experienced by Jews that culminated in the Nazi Holocaust. Indeed, the book’s tone was so angry that it occurred to me that the authors might be projecting some their own “combustible rage” onto Arabs and Muslims, in particular. (Ironically, Podhoretz proves helpful here: in his 1963 essay, he notes that, “The psychologists …tells us that the white man hates the Negro because he tends to project those wild impulses that he fears in himself onto an alien group which he then punishes with contempt.”) That’s not to say that Perle and Frum and other hard-line neo-cons are incorrect about the existence of feelings of humiliation and anger among Muslims in the Greater Middle East; I just wonder to what extent their own rage, of which they seem much less conscious, exaggerates those feelings and their pervasiveness in the region.
Of course, the Holocaust and its impact on the worldview of contemporary American Jews, the great majority of whom are much more open to accommodation with the Muslim world and Palestinians than hard-line neo-cons, is an overwhelming subject. (For those who are interested, I addressed some aspects of the subject in an article I wrote three years ago, called “From Holocaust to Hyperpower, although I also stongly recommend “The Holocaust in American Life” by Peter Nozick). But, for purposes of this post, the image of Jews going to their deaths “like lambs to the slaughter” — an image that first became dominant during the formative years for the generation that includes Perle, Ledeen, Charles Krauthammer, among others in the early 1960s when the Eichmann trial and “Judgment at Nuremberg”, among other events, brought the Holocaust much more forcefully into the public domain than it had been before — was deeply, deeply disturbing, even at a time when victimhood had gained a certain moral stature thanks to the civil rights movement, and identity politics was on the rise. While Israel’s stunning military victory in 1967 offered a remarkable and highly welcome antidote to the image of Jews as helpless victims, the war — along with other events of the time, including the rise of the Black Power and anti-war movements — also reinforced among a not insignificant number of Jews a sense of vulnerability and insecurity, as well as the notion that Jews had to be tough to survive. Indeed, it was shortly after the war that Podhoretz steered ‘Commentary,’ the flagship publication of the American Jewish Committee, sharply to the right on foreign-policy issues, in particular, and that Rabbi Meir Kahane, who popularized the slogan “Never Again” with its multiple connotations of humiliation, shame, militancy, and rage coming out of the Holocaust, founded the Jewish Defense League. (This was before “Never Again” was appropriated by anti-genocide movements that wanted to make the idea universal, rather than specific to Jews, as Kahane had intended.) Kahane, a man filled with rage, emigrated to Israel in 1971 where he formed the Kach Party, which was put on Israel’s and the State Department’s terrorism lists after one of its U.S.-born militants, Baruch Goldstein, massacred 29 Palestinian worshipers and injured more than a 100 more at the Mosque of Abraham/Cave of the Patriarchs in Hebron in 1994. (Kahane himself was assassinated in New York in 1990.)
While more recent historical research has suggested that the “lambs-to-the-slaughter” paradigm was over-simplified, and Holocaust-related museums and school curricula have tried over time to present a more-nuanced image, the Jew-as-victim has remained dominant through most of the last 40 years or so, and the fact that the Holocaust itself has become so thoroughly integrated into American culture and education, primarily through the efforts of the “Israel Lobby,” has probably not helped in that respect. And while the image no doubt helps ensure continued U.S. support and sympathy for Israel, it has also perpetuated a sense of humiliation for at least some Jews. Consider, for example, this passage in Rich Cohen’s 1998 book, “Tough Jews”, a paean to Jewish-American gangsters, like Bugsy Siegel and Meyer Lansky, who Cohen sees as the perfect counterpoint to the Jew-as-victim paradigm. Cohen, who was born in 1968, writes of both his embarrassment and anger with the Holocaust unit taught in school.
“You see, for people like me, who were born long after Germany was defeated, the worst part of the Holocaust was never the dead bodies; it was the way Jewish victims were portrayed. In history class at my junior high school in Illinois, we were forced to sit through films, spooled by some A/V geek, that showed images of the Holocaust: all those Jews waiting to be shot, looking ahead with already dead eyes, trees in the background, hands covering genitals. In none of those pictures was there even a faint suggestion of personality, an individual. There was only a silent, wide-eyed mass, the shame of being marched naked, being seen by women, by men …For forty minutes I would sit there, surrounded by non-Jewish classmates, my eyes burning my neck starting to itch. At recess I would walk up to Clay Mellon, biggest kid in our school, the bully who ran everything, and say, ‘You stupid asshole.’”
Cohen doesn’t tell us what happened next, but the message is pretty clear: humiliation leads to aggression, however ill-considered or indirect it may be. Moreover, the humiliation doesn’t even have to be up close and personal, as with physical attacks or verbal taunts; in this case, it was conveyed by a film strip created 40 years before and half a world away. Is it no wonder that Arabs and Muslims get angry when they see video of violence perpetrated against Palestinians by Israeli soldiers or settlers broadcast on their television screens in real time or read Mohammed Omer’s account of how he was treated by Shin Beth?
So, might humiliation — whether in the form of physical beatings by the “Other”, as experienced by Adelson and Podhoretz and their generation; or taunting and social exclusion, as experienced by Perle and his generation; or learning about (through watching old film strips and photos and other means) the mass murder of a collective group of which you are a member, even if two generations removed, or some combination of two of the three, or all three — produce a rage that would translate into extremely and even irrationally aggressive policy recommendations against a perceived threat? At the least, it would make such a result more likely. Yet, while hard-line neo-cons recognize that dynamic in other groups, particularly those they see as enemies, they never seem to see how it might apply to their own experience and outlook.
At the same time, rage and aggression is clearly not an inevitable outcome of humiliation, however it is incurred. Most Jewish Americans have been exposed to one, two, or even all three of these kinds of humiliations but, unlike the hard-line neo-cons like Adelson, Podhoretz, Perle, and Frum, they still oppose attacking Iran and favor withdrawal from Iraq; they still support territorial compromise a two-state solution with the Palestinians for whose plight they even express some sympathy; and they are not obsessed with “Islamofascism,” nor, in Buruma’s words, do they “[long] for power and being tough.” So, while humiliation may well be a necessary condition for the kind of extremism that hard-line neo-cons espouse, it may not be sufficient by itself.
It may be that the timing of the humiliation(s) experienced by the individual in relation to his or her own emotional and social development, as well as the degree to which the individual is traumatized by the experience(s), are key factors that trigger the anger and aggression that, in my view, underlie the neo-conservative worldview. In that respect, I found a reaction to Buruma’s essay by a reader of Josh Marshall’s blog, talkingpointsmemo.com, last September, particularly compelling. Although closer in age to Perle, the reader, “PK” was subject to beatings — in his case, by Italian and Irish kids — of the kind experienced by Podhoretz and Adelson in their youth. Here’s what he writes about Buruma’s analysis of Podhoretz, although I suspect he would apply it to Adelson, if not the others, as well:
“The simple explanation is that Podhoretz is suffering the rage of the impotent. When I was a young Jewish kid in the fifties, I lived in an area that was 90% Irish and Italian Catholic. I still like to joke that growing up I thought my middle name was “kike”.
It was not unusual for my small crowd to be constantly bullied and intimidated by these other kids. Most of us were bookish and only a few of us were big enough or tough enough to fight back when it inevitably came to blows. Over the years, most of figured out a way to make peace and by the time we were in high school, some sort of truce had evolved.
Yet with all of that, when I feel I am being pushed around, my mental state conjures up what can only be called violent fantasies of revenge……..inflict the beating on my persecutor that I couldn’t inflict as a kid but that was the source of humiliation to me.
I am sure that Podhoretz must have had the same type of internal reaction. The difference is that he must have a personality defect and has been unable to evolve past the primitive emotional level of his childhood. Add a towering intellect and powerful personality and you get the kind of miscreant that throughout history has lead [sic] people into monumental carnage as a means to overcome their own insecurity and feelings of helplessness.
I know this may sound like pop psychology from a layman but in a lot of respects I can relate to the experiences Podhoretz had as a kid and the feelings it engendered. The difference is that I have learned that hatred and revenge are poisonous to the soul. Podhoretz makes the mistake of believing that if he can only find a way to conquer his “enemies”, it will somehow mitigate his own sense of inadequacy. Where he has gone, there is no coming back, nothing would ever be enough, there will always have to be a new enemy, always another affront to his manhood, always another way to prove he is not that weak little impotent Jewish kid afraid of being beaten up.”
As Franz Fanon wrote in “The Wretched of the Earth,” “Violence is a cleansing force [that] …frees the native from his inferiority complex and from his despair and inactivity: It makes him fearless and restores his self-respect.” Remarkably, that quote appears in Perle’s “An End to Evil” as part of the passage devoted to explaining the origins of Muslim and Arab extremism. Compare it with Charles Krauthammer exulting in the smashing victory achieved by the U.S. in Afghanistan –
“What talks in the region? Power. …The elementary truth that seems to elude the experts again and again — Gulf War, Afghan war, next war — is that power is its own reward. Victory changes everything, psychology above all. The psychology in the region is now one of fear and deep respect for American power”
– and you can hear what Fanon was writing about.
mattes
July 8, 2008 @ 5:03 pm
I have never had much sympathy for the neo-cons.
After reading Jim’s article I am reminded yet again how nothing is created in a vacuum. All of life functions under the rules of cause and effect, and human history is no different.
The making of a neo-con. Now after reading a bit about their childhoods, I can clearly see the connection Lobe has exposed. Very understandable. But, what now. Where do we go from here. Or are we just like rats running on a treadmill….unable to jump off. Unable to free ourselves from the molding experiences of youth. Do we not have free will, is it just an illusion?
Jews are tough. They are the toughest MF in the middle east. When will enough enough to appease the Jewish policy makers. The young Jewish soldiers in Israel that has been taught to hate and humiliate the “enemy”, never had to suffer the experiences of the leaders that have taught them to hate.
I can only hope that someday we will stop glamorizing war. Because in every war, is the seed for the next. AND for the soldiers who come back with torn bodies and minds, war is not glamorous any longer. We all pay, for the revenge of a few.
LeaNder
July 8, 2008 @ 7:24 pm
This is a very, very good piece, Jim. Vaguely reminiscent of my favorite image during the last years: mirrors.
As it reminds me I always wanted to read Leon Wurmser’s The mask of shame. From a review on Amazon:
“The experience of shame is, like guilt also a desire of the ego-ideal within the superego but in the case of shame the ego fears to be destroyed and not to destroy.”
b
July 9, 2008 @ 1:19 am
Thanks Jim, good insight.
Sam W
July 9, 2008 @ 1:32 am
Outstanding analysis by Jim Lobe. It comports with my personal observations growing up in a small Jewish community. There is one other aspect to the psyche of the Neocon mindset — the abandonment of the Jewish religion and the subsequent “return” via the support of Israel. I put “return” in parentheses because in reality they have adopted Statism as their religion. The sequence of events in most Neocon lives involves a gradual abandonment of religious customs to the point of never attending religious services or only going once a year. They often developed an interest in what the mainstream called “radical” philosophies. Next came the period of “guilt” for abandoning religion. Then came the critical, sad and dangerous turning point. They decided, ” I am going to return to my religion”. But since they did not know anything about it, the easiest way to “return” was to be gung-ho for Israel. In their mistaken minds, support of Israel was being a “good” religious person. This is a dangerous mix, where support of a government becomes your religous “raison d’etre” and it can lead to disaster.
Nad
July 9, 2008 @ 2:00 am
I still do not how the people who lived and suffered such horrible experience could do the same to others specially those who were kind to them? It is clear that the history is repeating itself; no lessons learned. The world seems preparing for the next holocaust for the Muslims. Look who is leading the preparation?
empyrius
July 9, 2008 @ 3:08 am
Indeed. This is quite an interesting article.
Thanks.
pax vobiscum
Renfro
July 9, 2008 @ 3:11 am
I am surprised that it has taken so long for a number of others to see the core of the zionist.
It has been obvious to me since the day the zionist first crossed my political radar that they were like the old ads for weight lifting that featured the skinny guy who got picked on and humilated by the strong muscled beach boy and then labored to build the muscles to go back and kick sand in the bullies face.
They identify their jewish heritage as being historically powerless “victims” and it inspires their revenge against their “enemies” and the world in general.
You would think that with the opportunities and acceptance jews have acheived in the US the zionist would have gotten over that…but no, they are self destructive….not to mention destroying several other things in their path.
Peter Biddulph
July 9, 2008 @ 3:23 am
Thank you again Jim, for a deep insight into the causes of mass killing of human beings.
Richard Perle uses two important words in the extract video. He talks of regimes who destroy “freedom”, and “confront”.
Firstly, it is Perle himself who by a mixture of some truth and his own subconscious assumptions defines the nature of “freedom”. And the word “confront” very quickly becomes part of the agenda of total war, with a night of “Shock and Awe”, and (as was photographed by a left wing newspaper in the UK shortly after the invasion) the motto “Kill ‘em all” on the helmet of many of the marines who formed the first advance into Iraq.
Kissinger – and the administrations of Reagan and Bush Senior – was quite happy with the definition of freedom offered by Iraq when Saddam Hussein was at his zenith. Iraq, commented Kissinger in one of his world review meetings, “is a powerful player”. Hussein would adapt an aggressive front, and that in turn would stimulate Syria to increase its defences. That in turn, joked Kissinger, would provide justification for a more aggressive stance by Israel, thus suiting American interests at the time (1975).
It was only when Saddam Hussein started to play by the very rules which America was happy to see in operation in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Egypt, that American got nervous.
And when Saddam tried to grab – as had America over the previous decade with Libya and other places – a piece of the oil pie for himself, that America decided that war was the only way to stop him.
We should remember that during the 1975 oil embargo by Arab states, the British Joint Intelligence Committee was aware that America had a plan for the invasion of several Arab states. It is now known from declassified British cabinet and security records that America’s first intention was to invade and secure the oil fields. Several Arab states would have their regimes replaced by “amenable men”, as has happened in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
Thus “Freedom”, that much abused lady, is often what you want her to be. And “confront” is a nice word for the academic intellectual. But it is rarely understood by an angry American president or the unknowing Grunt on the front line. It is quickly replaced by – as we heard in the Watergate tapes, and more lately in the General Sanchez account of Bush’s rant concerning the fate of Fallujah – the words, “Kill, kill, kill ‘em all”.
And as an afterthought. A presidential candidate when asked to comment on the increased trade of cigarettes to Iran? “Well, that’s a good way to kill Iranians”. Freedom? Justice? Morals? Sanity? A dangerous nation indeed.
Herman Schmidt
July 9, 2008 @ 7:22 am
Jim Lobe is right about a desire for revenge. In the hands of the powerful it is very dangerous. It explains Versaille and its consequences, Morgenthau’ prescription for Germany post WWII, and Israel’s behavior when a Palestinian kills or maims a Jew or our own copycat behavior since 9/11. It takes us nowhere and explaining it only means something if we also condemn it. We have a hard time with that.
Werner Hoermann
July 9, 2008 @ 8:43 am
As usual, an excellent article by Lobe. What I take away from it, is that there are only two ways to eliminate this never ending cycle of violence following any armed conflict:
Either completely eliminate the enemy through genocide, or treat the loser in an armed conflict with a sense of respect and fairness.
One would think that common sense would make any victor choose the latter, if only to save their progeny from the revenge of the victims. However, being so magnimous requires a mindset that is contrary to the mindset required to achieve victory in the first place, and is typically completely absent in the politicians that do make it to the top.
George Corsetti
July 9, 2008 @ 9:27 am
As a criminal defense lawyer who at times represents sexual abusers, I find that the interview soon evolves to their own victimization at the hands of other sexual abusers. They do onto others as has been done onto them. It is their reality. That’s how the world is. Humiliation takes many forms — ask Japanese-Americans during WW II, Arab-Americans….
But the answer is obvious. The way to stop this daisy chain of humiliation is to put a stop to it now, to make it legally and socially unacceptable. Like drunk driving, negative reinforcement works. Its time to crank up the war crimes tribunal.
John Hofer
July 9, 2008 @ 9:37 am
One day, not soon enough, this generation of the humiliated will pass. It will leave behind those they have humiliated, who will live to fight another day.
These are depressing thoughts for Israel and the US in the Middle East, but bullies never seem to care about the consequences of their actions, as if Hezbollah and Hamas rose in a vacuum that had nothing to do with them.
Darryl
July 9, 2008 @ 9:51 am
Jim’s a Rock! The effect of his articles pound like a railway hammer on the train wheel. But each one is a chess move. Jim always delivers a fresh angle or expose on venality, never repeating his case and rarely repeating his target, (excepting his weakness for outing the endless fresh mendacities of POTUS and co.)
John Lowell
July 9, 2008 @ 10:04 am
What an outstanding analysis! I have little doubt that Lobe touches on a core truth here that has as much to do with a million other pathologies as with the unique problems of neo-conservatism. I have always read the final chapters of histories of the Holocaust with particular sadness, of the squads of vigilante Jews that hunted down Nazi war tormentors so as to wreak vengence upon them. It is as if there were no lasting benefit gleaned from the experience of persecution and that to say nothing of the risk to the moral highground gained from it. One enslaves oneselves to ones enemies in this way, forever allowing self-definition to rest in an external source. And here the genius of Jesus Christ, never a creature of his tormentors, but forever free. Let Him be unto all men.
James
July 9, 2008 @ 10:36 am
I believe Mr. Lobe’s commonsensical and nuanced analysis goes a long way in explaining what makes the most militant neoconservatives tick. Stunted by lifelong feelings of impotency and inferiority, they lack the ability to feel any sense of genuine shame. Shameless, they experience no guilt. Absent guilt, there is no possibility of expiation or atonement for one’s own excesses, let alone making peace or compromising with any Other or perceived enemy.
The neoconservative commentariat do not see the need to apologize for victory in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Concerned Observer
July 9, 2008 @ 12:46 pm
“Those to whom evil is done
Do evil in return.”
SEPTEMBER 1, 1939
W.H. Auden
The Reality Kid
July 9, 2008 @ 1:24 pm
I hope this is not too far off-topic, but having previously read Mr. Podhoretz’ essay, I’ve always been struck by the following –
1) Mr. Podhoretz admits that, at the time of his writing, his residual hatred for “the Negro” does not have “any cause or justification (except, perhaps, that I am constantly being denied my right to an honest expression of the things I earned the right as a child to feel).”
2) Mr. Podhoretz believed that “the tragic fact is that love is not the answer to hate”;
3) Mr. Podhoretz believed that what he saw as the “Negro problem” could only be eliminated through assimilation; and
4) Perhaps most tellingly, Mr. Podhoretz completely failed to recognize the glaring contradiction between his advocacy of miscegenation as the vehicle for assimilation and his earlier conclusion that led him to advocate assimilation in the first place – namely, that “love is not the answer to hate”.
Nice piece, Mr. Lobe.
Blanche
July 9, 2008 @ 2:08 pm
Excellent piece, Jim. But it raises this question:
Who kicked sand in Bush’s face? Aside from the imperious mother, we have a spoilt rich kid whose father paved the way for his every step. No neighborhood toughs beating him up, or any family hardship. So what explains his primitive willingness (perhaps even delight in) preemptive war, mistreatment of prisoners, etc? Remember his sneer over Carla Faye Tucker?
Per journalist Tucker Carlson:
“In the weeks before the execution, Bush says, a number of protesters came to Austin to demand clemency for Karla Faye Tucker. “Did you meet with any of them?” I ask. Bush whips around and stares at me. “No, I didn’t meet with any of them”, he snaps, as though I’ve just asked the dumbest, most offensive question ever posed. “I didn’t meet with Larry King either when he came down for it. I watched his interview with Tucker, though. He asked her real difficult questions like, ‘What would you say to Governor Bush?’” “What was her answer?” I wonder. “‘Please,’” Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, “‘don’t kill me.’” I must look shocked — ridiculing the pleas of a condemned prisoner who has since been executed seems odd and cruel — because he immediately stops smirking.”
s masty
July 9, 2008 @ 2:54 pm
yes, those beaten as children are more likely to beat their own children.
those arrogant American Likudniks, so rapidly dissembling America’s human rights structure, may indvertantly pave the way for the next Genocide. In 1933/4 the Reichstag repealed laws that would have saved the lives of German Jews later. If antisemitism crops up here, as it has reared its head elsewhere, it would be tragic but also most ironic if the repeal of similar laws was partly facilitated by Jews themselves. I have two friends, both rabbis, who are quite worried about this.
And it is not out of the question, in Wilhelmine Germany, Jewish Germans paid something like 25% of the personal income tax, far above their percent of population, because they were so integrated, hard working and successful: no wonder so many of them felt (falsely) secure there.
Renfro
July 9, 2008 @ 3:32 pm
I so agree with what…
George Corsetti Says:
July 9th, 2008 at 9:27 am
As a criminal defense lawyer who at times represents sexual abusers, I find that the interview soon evolves to their own victimization at the hands of other sexual abusers. They do onto others as has been done onto them. It is their reality. That’s how the world is. Humiliation takes many forms — ask Japanese-Americans during WW II, Arab-Americans….
But the answer is obvious. The way to stop this daisy chain of humiliation is to put a stop to it now, to make it legally and socially unacceptable. Like drunk driving, negative reinforcement works. Its time to crank up the war crimes tribunal”
……because regardless of the reason behind the zionist cult, or the Bush father complex or the Cheney paranoia or the irrational religious cults and the fears of the little people that brought us to where we are now…the point is they have to be stopped.
Now. While we still have something that resembles a country.
John Hofer
July 9, 2008 @ 4:16 pm
Fortunately there seem to still be a few adults in powerful positions in Washington. Per Seymour Hersch, Robert Gates warned of the consequences if the Bush Administration staged a preemptive strike on Iran, saying, as the senator recalled, ‘We’ll create generations of jihadists, and our grandchildren will be battling our enemies here in America.’ Gates’s comments stunned the Democrats at the lunch.” (Naive Democrats don’t count among the adults.)
Bill W, NH
July 9, 2008 @ 5:52 pm
I think your article is a poor explanation/defense for war crimes.
Vera Beaudin Saeedpour
July 9, 2008 @ 6:24 pm
Would that a history of humiliation were enough to explain Jewish paranoia, fed and led by Zionists in Israel and in the U.S. –under the neocon rubric. There is more. I recall that on the website of True Torah Jews there was a quote from Zionist Itzhak Gruenwald back in the 1930’s. And it was this: “One cow in Palestine is worth all more than all the Jews in Poland.” And I recall the statement of Rabbi Moshe Schonfeld during that war (Holocaust Victims Accuse, 1977): ..the shedding of Jewish blood in the Diaspora is necessary in order for us to demand the establishment of a ‘Jewish’ state before the peace commission..Czech Jewry must resign itself to annihilation in the Auschwitz crematoria.” Humiliation and shame do not suffice to explain the JZionist malaise, which the powers that be and the powers that would be in Washington, including both presidential candidates, continue to feed–at Israel’s peril and surely at America’s peril.
Laurie
July 9, 2008 @ 6:36 pm
“Everyone’s a victim. Poor little neo-con. So what is John Bolton’s excuse or Dick Cheney’s? Why don’t we see Black neo-cons or Indians? Sorry save the pop psych for someone else, I’m not buying it. These are just power hungry men, no excuses.”
Linda
July 9, 2008 @ 6:43 pm
The rage and vindictiveness of Zionists wouldn’t matter if their agenda wasn’t useful to US imperialism. Obviously, they attached themselves to this imperial agenda as a way of getting power. In return, they continue the ethnic cleansing of Palestine and their human rights violations with virutal impunity.
DE Teodoru
July 9, 2008 @ 9:37 pm
Jim, you look so kind and gentle and write with such caring for the subject that I hate to see you duped. After the “ya ain’t no mesch” problem, the young neocons had that schizoid personality of the rebelious 60s Jewish youth who hated their money-oriented community and dreamed of screwing a shiktza chick: they also hated their $$$ oriented parents who cared only for the gelt and not the guilt that made the 30s and 60s so “revolutionary,” doing anything to get attention, and their own youthful search for manliness at a time when getting layed was becoming a ubiquitous reality rather than masturbatory fantacy. Alas, few of these guys managed to settle for anything short of the Queen Ugly or sloppy seconds after some “Frenchy” had given the future Mrs. a good run. And then Jewish American women are soooo humiliating and dominering to their men!
So what’s left in your scenecent Viagra won’t do anymore years? The answer is power and cash. They were whores, two-bit-publicits for the aerospace industry that panicked over the end of the Cold War. There also existed a lot of pushy filthy rich Laron midget Zionazis from Likud with mensch problems of their own– who hated Jewish intellectuals who made history instead of just money. These rich midgets treated Zionism like elevator shoes and felt that Israel was falling behind in living up to its flag: the Jews only state (the Star of David) between the two rivers (the blue lines), Nile and Eupretes. Stinking with cash, these guys bought for the neocons at 5c on the dollar the old anti-Red ops that WASP Capitalism no longer felt worth funding after the USSR collapsed and these became the neocons’ entry into the Republican-Conservative Party. There, their Lenininst “polarization” tactics proved very useful (as in calling the over 80% of Jews that hate them, “self-hating Jews”). So now each neocon has some doe and a nice pad and an ugly wife and “mesch-hood” from starting World War IV. But they are puny “wish-I-was” types who send others to die and take a cut from the crooks. Perhaps, like GW Bush, we should forget about them and just tell Poppy: You were right, they are a bunch of small dicked sh-ts and nothing else….So let’s forget them and move on.
David Green
July 10, 2008 @ 9:42 pm
Sorry, personal experience does not explain political ideology. I’m Jewish and was beat up by white kids. I don’t hate whites. Everybody has their individual pathology. It may disrupt their relationships and their families, the unconscious is powerful. That doesn’t mean it has to distort our view of who is the victimizer and who is the victim. These people are motivated by power and privilege. Their complaints about government and bureaucracy are ludicrously hypocritical–they commandeer government to make war. Yes, the psychoanalysis is interesting to those of us (including me) who’ve been following the neocon soap opera for 40 years, all the way back to Ocean Hill-Brownsville. But in the final analysis it’s not all that helpful. Let’s talk about class, race, privilege, militarism, etc. Look at Chomsky’s background, and what he did with it. The neocons, and not only them, just don’t have a thought process based on compassion and human decency.
DE Teodoru
July 11, 2008 @ 10:44 am
Bravo David!
The real issue is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Don’t let anyone fool you. But you must also appreciate this “mensch” thing coming from a culture where you either excelled with your mind or with your muscles and not with your cash– the neocons, punny narcicistic ugly dimunitive Leninists with no special talent at anything in a Jewish society that thought of wealth as something you share with the community, grabbed up the various prestige Jewish publications and used them for hate propaganda. That’s not how non-Red Jews ever were or are. In fact, I recall meeting often with the old leaders of the Federation of Jewish Philantropies: no money or support for war or for killing Palestinians there!
The neocon $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ didn’t come from a few rich Jews seeking to use cash instead of Viagra to feel like men, but initially but from WASP aerospace weapons friends of for-sale Sen. Jackson who, like McCain, would do anything to be President– the same ones that got Republican members of Congess by the boat load (and more on the way) into prison. Later, old shysters who wanted to be somebody manly-seeming, besides rich, funded their Zio-Likud ops, but that came later in the neocon career.
The money trail is clear: Leninism–>CIA–>strategic weapons inc.–> Zionism….with the last a rather new hat for the neocons.
My prayer to God above is that, though Americans got really stupid and herd-like under Bush-Rove– they will disinguish the small cabal of immoral cruds that got them into a bloody mess of WW IV in the Mideast for the sake of war toys and the mass majority of Jews who are the pillars of our society and Western Civilization and want peace and progress. Caring about Israel– I certainly do, though not even circumcized– is not the same as wanting WW IV. The latter has nothing to do with Zionism. It’s all for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$