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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://www.lobelog.com/more-evidence-of-neo-con-influence-on-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-33190</link>
		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are/will the Euros be so belligerent when we go broke?  I get the sense that they are just joining the chorus that we&#039;re leading.  I don&#039;t know for sure.  When we shrivel up, it will hurt Europe some.  I&#039;m not planning on going to Europe but the resource rich 3rd world.  They know how to deal with privation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are/will the Euros be so belligerent when we go broke?  I get the sense that they are just joining the chorus that we&#8217;re leading.  I don&#8217;t know for sure.  When we shrivel up, it will hurt Europe some.  I&#8217;m not planning on going to Europe but the resource rich 3rd world.  They know how to deal with privation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Harrison</title>
		<link>http://www.lobelog.com/more-evidence-of-neo-con-influence-on-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-33131</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheilanagig - is your moniker a variation on a P.J. Harvey song? (I&#039;m a fan.) 

The damage we have done to others sickens me -- be it the people of Iran, or Guatemala, or Vietnam, or other places. And of course we shouldn&#039;t forget Native Americans and African Americans. On the other hand, just berating ourselves doesn&#039;t accomplish much. And then shouldn&#039;t we weigh the good things America has done in the world, as well?

Doesn&#039;t every European country of any size have some major crimes in its history? Isn&#039;t China a pretty nasty place? How many genocides have occurred in Africa in the last 40 years? There&#039;s plenty of shame to go around. Americans generally are more self-critical than any other people I can think of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheilanagig &#8211; is your moniker a variation on a P.J. Harvey song? (I&#8217;m a fan.) </p>
<p>The damage we have done to others sickens me &#8212; be it the people of Iran, or Guatemala, or Vietnam, or other places. And of course we shouldn&#8217;t forget Native Americans and African Americans. On the other hand, just berating ourselves doesn&#8217;t accomplish much. And then shouldn&#8217;t we weigh the good things America has done in the world, as well?</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t every European country of any size have some major crimes in its history? Isn&#8217;t China a pretty nasty place? How many genocides have occurred in Africa in the last 40 years? There&#8217;s plenty of shame to go around. Americans generally are more self-critical than any other people I can think of.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheilanagig</title>
		<link>http://www.lobelog.com/more-evidence-of-neo-con-influence-on-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-33126</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheilanagig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to know that Americans are not all following along with the herd.  However, does it not occur to you that in Europe, it makes little difference who is elected?   Both candidates are warmongers.  Both candidates wish to use NATO to bolster the USA&#039;s overstretched military from pre-emptive strikes.

American blogs are all the same.  It&#039;s the ME ME and ME perspective.  I would like to see something that indicates that more informed Americans actually care about the damage their country has done to the lives of non&#039;americans.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to know that Americans are not all following along with the herd.  However, does it not occur to you that in Europe, it makes little difference who is elected?   Both candidates are warmongers.  Both candidates wish to use NATO to bolster the USA&#8217;s overstretched military from pre-emptive strikes.</p>
<p>American blogs are all the same.  It&#8217;s the ME ME and ME perspective.  I would like to see something that indicates that more informed Americans actually care about the damage their country has done to the lives of non&#8217;americans.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: American</title>
		<link>http://www.lobelog.com/more-evidence-of-neo-con-influence-on-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-33125</link>
		<dc:creator>American</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah...the candle burns at both ends, it&#039;s flame is lovely and bright, but oh my friends and ah my foes it will not last the night.

America, the one my ancestors fought and died for it, is over.

And no I am not being alarmist, just looking at the facts and the trend. A war of lies, regime changes for the sake of regimes changes, going to Afghan where  countries go to disappear into the bottom less pit, bailing out  the WS bubble and WS companies, that are as I type this under FBI investigation for financial fruad and which congress was informed of 2 weeks ago.......black is white, wrong is right, up is down.

Government of, by and for &#039;the parties&#039;, government of by and for foreign interest, government of by and for WS....all stupid, corrupt and incompetent at the same time.

To accurately describe what has happen to us would sound like a comical black humor soap opera.

But I am not leaving...I am waiting till it all falls down..and hoping then the public will march to DC, disembowel the criminals, string them up on lampost and leave their corpses there for further generations of high school civics student to view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah&#8230;the candle burns at both ends, it&#8217;s flame is lovely and bright, but oh my friends and ah my foes it will not last the night.</p>
<p>America, the one my ancestors fought and died for it, is over.</p>
<p>And no I am not being alarmist, just looking at the facts and the trend. A war of lies, regime changes for the sake of regimes changes, going to Afghan where  countries go to disappear into the bottom less pit, bailing out  the WS bubble and WS companies, that are as I type this under FBI investigation for financial fruad and which congress was informed of 2 weeks ago&#8230;&#8230;.black is white, wrong is right, up is down.</p>
<p>Government of, by and for &#8216;the parties&#8217;, government of by and for foreign interest, government of by and for WS&#8230;.all stupid, corrupt and incompetent at the same time.</p>
<p>To accurately describe what has happen to us would sound like a comical black humor soap opera.</p>
<p>But I am not leaving&#8230;I am waiting till it all falls down..and hoping then the public will march to DC, disembowel the criminals, string them up on lampost and leave their corpses there for further generations of high school civics student to view.</p>
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		<title>By: gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an interesting conundrum indeed. While basically agreeing with Scott on the eventual outcome, in the long-term I think it does matter who gets in. I am rooting for McCain for the reasons given by Jon Harrison. It is just to be hoped that this madman&#039;s finger is kept off the nuclear trigger when Rome starts to burn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an interesting conundrum indeed. While basically agreeing with Scott on the eventual outcome, in the long-term I think it does matter who gets in. I am rooting for McCain for the reasons given by Jon Harrison. It is just to be hoped that this madman&#8217;s finger is kept off the nuclear trigger when Rome starts to burn.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://www.lobelog.com/more-evidence-of-neo-con-influence-on-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-33098</link>
		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>neither matters, we will be bankrupt in no time.  We can&#039;t wage war against our creditors, if we attack Iran it will economically ruin us.  We won&#039;t be able to help Israel.  I had thought that the Baby Boomer&#039;s retirement would precipitate this collapse, but the Paulsen powergrab will do it sooner.  

If we bail out Wall Street, foreign money will flee the dollar which is retreating apace already.  We are in a $500 B. budget deficit.  That is essentially our entire Pentagon budget, or our entire debt service.  Once foreigners stop funding this we will have a crisis for real, for real.  

Now, I don&#039;t imagine that our lawmakers will kill the Pentagon.  Think about it, we have the weakest lobby between the finaciers, the Warmongers and Entitlements.  But, this bail out proposal has shown Americans that the lunch is naked.  If the pitchforks aren&#039;t being sharpened now, they&#039;re being dug out of the sheds and garages.

The greatest threat to this country is economic implosion.  Washington and the Media are in denial, while FINALLY main street is waking up to this.  

Jim, I hope you were shopping real estate whilst in Europe.  I am indeed making plans to move abroad.  My grandfather dismissed my fears a few years back with the old refrain, &quot;love it or leave it.&quot;  I was recently able to point out to him that he should have moved his money to Europe a few years back.  Now, he thinks me not so alarmist, or anti-American.  It&#039;s the &quot;PATRIOTS&quot; who are actively betraying this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neither matters, we will be bankrupt in no time.  We can&#8217;t wage war against our creditors, if we attack Iran it will economically ruin us.  We won&#8217;t be able to help Israel.  I had thought that the Baby Boomer&#8217;s retirement would precipitate this collapse, but the Paulsen powergrab will do it sooner.  </p>
<p>If we bail out Wall Street, foreign money will flee the dollar which is retreating apace already.  We are in a $500 B. budget deficit.  That is essentially our entire Pentagon budget, or our entire debt service.  Once foreigners stop funding this we will have a crisis for real, for real.  </p>
<p>Now, I don&#8217;t imagine that our lawmakers will kill the Pentagon.  Think about it, we have the weakest lobby between the finaciers, the Warmongers and Entitlements.  But, this bail out proposal has shown Americans that the lunch is naked.  If the pitchforks aren&#8217;t being sharpened now, they&#8217;re being dug out of the sheds and garages.</p>
<p>The greatest threat to this country is economic implosion.  Washington and the Media are in denial, while FINALLY main street is waking up to this.  </p>
<p>Jim, I hope you were shopping real estate whilst in Europe.  I am indeed making plans to move abroad.  My grandfather dismissed my fears a few years back with the old refrain, &#8220;love it or leave it.&#8221;  I was recently able to point out to him that he should have moved his money to Europe a few years back.  Now, he thinks me not so alarmist, or anti-American.  It&#8217;s the &#8220;PATRIOTS&#8221; who are actively betraying this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Harrison</title>
		<link>http://www.lobelog.com/more-evidence-of-neo-con-influence-on-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-33083</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No surprise that McCain is the neocons&#039; candidate. The question is: does one root for a McCain victory, so that the next four years will reveal to all the utter bankruptcy of the neocon world view? Or does one root for Obama, who if elected will be blamed by the neocons for spoiling the perfect world that they would otherwise have built? Truly a conundrum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No surprise that McCain is the neocons&#8217; candidate. The question is: does one root for a McCain victory, so that the next four years will reveal to all the utter bankruptcy of the neocon world view? Or does one root for Obama, who if elected will be blamed by the neocons for spoiling the perfect world that they would otherwise have built? Truly a conundrum.</p>
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