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		<title>By: George A</title>
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		<dc:creator>George A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do any of you folks have any relationship with reality??   Your obsession with the Jews is pathological.  What you want it to be a-historical and view things only through the fascist/communist views about the world.  

Really, does self-deceipt fit your tastes?? I guess it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do any of you folks have any relationship with reality??   Your obsession with the Jews is pathological.  What you want it to be a-historical and view things only through the fascist/communist views about the world.  </p>
<p>Really, does self-deceipt fit your tastes?? I guess it does.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone once suggested that an antisemite is someone who has won an argument with Norman Podhoretz.  The comment applies more broadly today.  An antisemite, in current times, is someone who has won an argument with a neoconservative.

Those who debase the term &quot;antisemite&quot; make it harder to fight real antisemitism, as evils with no name are much harder to resist.  Shame on the neocons for making the world safer for real antisemites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone once suggested that an antisemite is someone who has won an argument with Norman Podhoretz.  The comment applies more broadly today.  An antisemite, in current times, is someone who has won an argument with a neoconservative.</p>
<p>Those who debase the term &#8220;antisemite&#8221; make it harder to fight real antisemitism, as evils with no name are much harder to resist.  Shame on the neocons for making the world safer for real antisemites.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This all boils down to a single question: Can one be both anti-Zionist and a philo-Semite? The answer is: of course one can. But the simplest way for Israel&#039;s supporters to dismiss anti-Zionist arguments is to smear any person who makes them as an anti-Semite. That&#039;s all we&#039;re talking about here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This all boils down to a single question: Can one be both anti-Zionist and a philo-Semite? The answer is: of course one can. But the simplest way for Israel&#8217;s supporters to dismiss anti-Zionist arguments is to smear any person who makes them as an anti-Semite. That&#8217;s all we&#8217;re talking about here.</p>
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		<title>By: Carroll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>delia ruhe
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Good insight.</description>
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<p>Good insight.</p>
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		<title>By: delia ruhe</title>
		<link>http://www.lobelog.com/leon-wieseltier-anti-semitism-and-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-106631</link>
		<dc:creator>delia ruhe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;new antisemitism&quot; is essentially an internal debate among Jews, a debate about Jewish identity and the calamity of no longer being the eternally innocent victim.  Eternal innocence requires an eternally guilty perpetrator in order to secure its existence -- and even new generations of Germans are beginning to refuse the burden of eternal perpetrator.  The task of the Israel lobbies -- all of them: those in the US, in Europe, in Canada, in Australia, in Latin America -- is to see that this Jewish debate between &quot;pro-Zionists&quot; and &quot;self-hating Jews&quot; is splattered across the gentile world, where special commissions and new research institutes and other high-profile campaigns are being mounted with the intention of influencing governments to amend anti-hate laws to include critiques of Israel are now underway.  The American State Department already recognizes “anti-Israel stances” as antisemitism, and public opinion polls already count such stances as antisemitic incidents.  

Since few individual gentiles in their right mind would enter into this debate, anyone who putatively slips over some invisible line (such as Sullivan or even Limbaugh) is a gift to the lobby -- someone who will be made to stand as proof of the ostensibly incurable anti-Jewish bigotry of the entire non-Jewish world.  

In sum, this projection of antisemitism onto gentile culture is a refusal to accept the traumatic loss of victim status.  As Yoav Shamir’s film *Defamation* makes clear, it requires an elaborate program of psychological violence to convince Israeli teenagers to embrace victimhood.  This is, of course, child abuse, but the very fact that victim identity must be forced onto new generations of Jews is also evidence that the end of the crisis is on the horizon.  Until that end comes, we can all expect to be accused of antisemitism; it’s not a big deal anymore.  Which is too bad for REAL antisemitism, as it does exist and requires monitoring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;new antisemitism&#8221; is essentially an internal debate among Jews, a debate about Jewish identity and the calamity of no longer being the eternally innocent victim.  Eternal innocence requires an eternally guilty perpetrator in order to secure its existence &#8212; and even new generations of Germans are beginning to refuse the burden of eternal perpetrator.  The task of the Israel lobbies &#8212; all of them: those in the US, in Europe, in Canada, in Australia, in Latin America &#8212; is to see that this Jewish debate between &#8220;pro-Zionists&#8221; and &#8220;self-hating Jews&#8221; is splattered across the gentile world, where special commissions and new research institutes and other high-profile campaigns are being mounted with the intention of influencing governments to amend anti-hate laws to include critiques of Israel are now underway.  The American State Department already recognizes “anti-Israel stances” as antisemitism, and public opinion polls already count such stances as antisemitic incidents.  </p>
<p>Since few individual gentiles in their right mind would enter into this debate, anyone who putatively slips over some invisible line (such as Sullivan or even Limbaugh) is a gift to the lobby &#8212; someone who will be made to stand as proof of the ostensibly incurable anti-Jewish bigotry of the entire non-Jewish world.  </p>
<p>In sum, this projection of antisemitism onto gentile culture is a refusal to accept the traumatic loss of victim status.  As Yoav Shamir’s film *Defamation* makes clear, it requires an elaborate program of psychological violence to convince Israeli teenagers to embrace victimhood.  This is, of course, child abuse, but the very fact that victim identity must be forced onto new generations of Jews is also evidence that the end of the crisis is on the horizon.  Until that end comes, we can all expect to be accused of antisemitism; it’s not a big deal anymore.  Which is too bad for REAL antisemitism, as it does exist and requires monitoring.</p>
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		<title>By: DICKERSON3870</title>
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		<dc:creator>DICKERSON3870</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE:&quot;All REICH WINGERS Of Any Country Or Religious Persuasion Are Totally Crazy!!&quot; - Rose Hunter
MY COMMENT: You tell &#039;em Rose! Go Rose, go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:&#8221;All REICH WINGERS Of Any Country Or Religious Persuasion Are Totally Crazy!!&#8221; &#8211; Rose Hunter<br />
MY COMMENT: You tell &#8216;em Rose! Go Rose, go!</p>
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		<title>By: Reilly Annette Weston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reilly Annette Weston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What bothers me is not the growth of intolerant zealot warmongers in Israel, the US and other places. Such people have always been among us and always will be.
The problem is that liberals can&#039;t seem to energize themselves with some of that old time FDR spirit and find a rallying point to hail the troops so they can organize around it and build a counter mass-movement to the neo-BrownShirts. A large, angry, fearless focussed movement that would scare the crap out of the Tea-potties, chicken hawks and Dr. Strangelove types.  

If we can&#039;t get it together to resist these creatures they will win, just like their spiritual forebears won in 1930&#039;s Germany. What are we missing? Have we lost confidence in the faith of our core convictions?

It&#039;s up to us, People. No amount of whining and kvetching will hold back the onslaught of the jackboot hordes. Only a grim, coordinated, concerted strategy formulated in a social-military format with special emphasis on psy-ops.

Remember, the Bible says there are two kinds of people: liberals and churls. It&#039;s time the liberals began naming the screaming riff-raff for what they are -- CHURLS! (Isaiah 32:5) Sing it loud! Sing it proud! Sing it from the mountaintop. Right-wing jackboots are churls and the Bible thinks so too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What bothers me is not the growth of intolerant zealot warmongers in Israel, the US and other places. Such people have always been among us and always will be.<br />
The problem is that liberals can&#8217;t seem to energize themselves with some of that old time FDR spirit and find a rallying point to hail the troops so they can organize around it and build a counter mass-movement to the neo-BrownShirts. A large, angry, fearless focussed movement that would scare the crap out of the Tea-potties, chicken hawks and Dr. Strangelove types.  </p>
<p>If we can&#8217;t get it together to resist these creatures they will win, just like their spiritual forebears won in 1930&#8217;s Germany. What are we missing? Have we lost confidence in the faith of our core convictions?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s up to us, People. No amount of whining and kvetching will hold back the onslaught of the jackboot hordes. Only a grim, coordinated, concerted strategy formulated in a social-military format with special emphasis on psy-ops.</p>
<p>Remember, the Bible says there are two kinds of people: liberals and churls. It&#8217;s time the liberals began naming the screaming riff-raff for what they are &#8212; CHURLS! (Isaiah 32:5) Sing it loud! Sing it proud! Sing it from the mountaintop. Right-wing jackboots are churls and the Bible thinks so too!</p>
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		<title>By: AdR</title>
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		<dc:creator>AdR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh well, when someone&#039;s name is &quot;Weasle&quot;, what would you expect?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well, when someone&#8217;s name is &#8220;Weasle&#8221;, what would you expect?</p>
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		<title>By: Orest Slepokura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orest Slepokura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George Orwell in his dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-four summed up the debate over the enormous influence  wielded by Israel&#039;s Jewish lobby in Washington&#039;s corridors of power in the simplest language: &quot;Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.&quot; 

Leon Wieseltier and his Zionist fellow travelers understood that from the get-go. That&#039;s why it was always imperative that both opinion- and decision-makers be totally discouraged from venturing into no-go areas, such as admitting there even was such a thing as a &quot;Jewish lobby&quot; - let alone that it wielded great power, often against the best interests of US citizens.

In his novel, Orwell described sex as being a political act; in Washington, simple two-plus-two logic, admitting to the evidence of what is hiding in plain sight, has been turned into a political act by the Jewish lobby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Orwell in his dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-four summed up the debate over the enormous influence  wielded by Israel&#8217;s Jewish lobby in Washington&#8217;s corridors of power in the simplest language: &#8220;Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.&#8221; </p>
<p>Leon Wieseltier and his Zionist fellow travelers understood that from the get-go. That&#8217;s why it was always imperative that both opinion- and decision-makers be totally discouraged from venturing into no-go areas, such as admitting there even was such a thing as a &#8220;Jewish lobby&#8221; &#8211; let alone that it wielded great power, often against the best interests of US citizens.</p>
<p>In his novel, Orwell described sex as being a political act; in Washington, simple two-plus-two logic, admitting to the evidence of what is hiding in plain sight, has been turned into a political act by the Jewish lobby.</p>
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		<title>By: rose hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>rose hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I-m a part of the legion of BLOODYISRAEL haters, and I-m a liberal jew!  I also hate AIPAC!!, blood-sucking REICH WINGERS totally crazy and proud of it!!!  All REICH WINGERS of any country or religious persuasion are totally crazy!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I-m a part of the legion of BLOODYISRAEL haters, and I-m a liberal jew!  I also hate AIPAC!!, blood-sucking REICH WINGERS totally crazy and proud of it!!!  All REICH WINGERS of any country or religious persuasion are totally crazy!!</p>
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