Comments on: Ledeen and Chinese “Fascism” http://www.lobelog.com/ledeen-and-chinese-fascism/ Personality Blogs Tue, 07 Feb 2012 05:25:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Roger Lafontaine http://www.lobelog.com/ledeen-and-chinese-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-16716 Roger Lafontaine Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:25:21 +0000 http://www.ips.org/blog/jimlobe/?p=151#comment-16716 Exaggeration and hysteria-mongering, that is what passes for journalism. It's a lot like fascism itself isn't it? No China is not fascist. Fascism leads to war and aggression. China may be repressive in lots of ways, but so is US, but it is certainly not aggressive. If anything it exemplifies the quality of patience and pragmatism in its actions. Much of what we are told by our 'free press' is unfortunately distortion and prejudice. These people tend to see fascism everywhere but in themselves. Exaggeration and hysteria-mongering, that is what passes for journalism. It’s a lot like fascism itself isn’t it? No China is not fascist. Fascism leads to war and aggression. China may be repressive in lots of ways, but so is US, but it is certainly not aggressive. If anything it exemplifies the quality of patience and pragmatism in its actions. Much of what we are told by our ‘free press’ is unfortunately distortion and prejudice. These people tend to see fascism everywhere but in themselves.

]]> By: Kyle http://www.lobelog.com/ledeen-and-chinese-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-15022 Kyle Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:46:47 +0000 http://www.ips.org/blog/jimlobe/?p=151#comment-15022 I said it on Antiwar.com and I'll say it here, Ledeen probably meant it as a compliment as he loves Benito quite a bit. I said it on Antiwar.com and I’ll say it here, Ledeen probably meant it as a compliment as he loves Benito quite a bit.

]]> By: LeaNder http://www.lobelog.com/ledeen-and-chinese-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-14951 LeaNder Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:41:12 +0000 http://www.ips.org/blog/jimlobe/?p=151#comment-14951 As a German I always had an instinctive aversion against wake-up-calls, implicating a speaker that somehow has a more profound vision, demanding that others need to awake to for the better of all. I met the more vulgar kind on the US net too. (not my anonymous friend) That may be the reason why I am utterly attracted–in a complex debate–to Roger Griffin’s work and especially his definitions of fascism since in his analysis too emerges the “rebirth” element, the awakening to a new reality: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Griffin Strictly Jim, we should not completely forget that dissent is dangerous in China. It was an afterthought. Even more since “they” are trying to occupy the better part of the left vision, while trying to turn the left collectively into fascist forces. That said: I surely understand your problems with Mr. Faster Please. Here is something that might interest you. Reminds me of many things e.g. the much repeated meme of "bad scholarship", without ever completely defining what it is while the "good is tacitly" assumed to be obvious: http://www.democratiya.com/review.asp?reviews_id=158 I had my own troubles with the left masses, pseudo-left, or certain fringes over here, and yes with the left facists, it was a standard term and still is, but do you honestly think that Dany would have left France for Frankfurt, had we all been antisemites? And my heart definitively beats on the left, as was part of the crowd the “scholar” writes about. As a German I always had an instinctive aversion against wake-up-calls, implicating a speaker that somehow has a more profound vision, demanding that others need to awake to for the better of all. I met the more vulgar kind on the US net too. (not my anonymous friend)

That may be the reason why I am utterly attracted–in a complex debate–to Roger Griffin’s work and especially his definitions of fascism since in his analysis too emerges the “rebirth” element, the awakening to a new reality:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Griffin

Strictly Jim, we should not completely forget that dissent is dangerous in China. It was an afterthought. Even more since “they” are trying to occupy the better part of the left vision, while trying to turn the left collectively into fascist forces. That said: I surely understand your problems with Mr. Faster Please.

Here is something that might interest you. Reminds me of many things e.g. the much repeated meme of “bad scholarship”, without ever completely defining what it is while the “good is tacitly” assumed to be obvious:

http://www.democratiya.com/review.asp?reviews_id=158

I had my own troubles with the left masses, pseudo-left, or certain fringes over here, and yes with the left facists, it was a standard term and still is, but do you honestly think that Dany would have left France for Frankfurt, had we all been antisemites? And my heart definitively beats on the left, as was part of the crowd the “scholar” writes about.

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