Comments on: J Street Honoree Makes The Group’s Mission Clear http://www.lobelog.com/j-street-honoree-makes-the-group%e2%80%99s-mission-clear/ Personality Blogs Tue, 07 Feb 2012 05:25:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Charles Monaghan http://www.lobelog.com/j-street-honoree-makes-the-group%e2%80%99s-mission-clear/comment-page-1/#comment-88624 Charles Monaghan Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:07:46 +0000 http://www.ips.org/blog/jimlobe/?p=304#comment-88624 It is great to see that the Kovners, strong opponents of the Vietnam War, are still fighting the good fight. It is great to see that the Kovners, strong opponents of the Vietnam War, are still fighting the good fight.

]]> By: Mike P http://www.lobelog.com/j-street-honoree-makes-the-group%e2%80%99s-mission-clear/comment-page-1/#comment-86046 Mike P Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:44:09 +0000 http://www.ips.org/blog/jimlobe/?p=304#comment-86046 Sigh... Ms Clinton has agreed to compromise on the settlement issue... Hopefully, more people's voices will be heard to support J street Sigh… Ms Clinton has agreed to compromise on the settlement issue… Hopefully, more people’s voices will be heard to support J street

]]> By: TutuG http://www.lobelog.com/j-street-honoree-makes-the-group%e2%80%99s-mission-clear/comment-page-1/#comment-86011 TutuG Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:15:31 +0000 http://www.ips.org/blog/jimlobe/?p=304#comment-86011 Well done J Street! The trillion dollar question is do the critiques of the Zionist policies towards Palestinians in the US, Jewish or not, form a silent majority or not. Let us hope they are. Well done J Street! The trillion dollar question is do the critiques of the Zionist policies towards Palestinians in the US, Jewish or not, form a silent majority or not. Let us hope they are.

]]> By: Jon Harrison http://www.lobelog.com/j-street-honoree-makes-the-group%e2%80%99s-mission-clear/comment-page-1/#comment-85963 Jon Harrison Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:23:09 +0000 http://www.ips.org/blog/jimlobe/?p=304#comment-85963 I feel bad for Mr. Kovner and all of you who support his views. All this talk of territorial compromise, etc. is pure pie in the sky. It's rather like Roger Cohen being confronted with the question, "What would Hezbollah and Hamas do if they had weapons of mass destruction?" Of course he couldn't answer, beyond saying "I don't know." But he does know; he's too smart a guy. Your instincts are right -- a thousand times so -- but the other side isn't interested in a two-state solution. They mean to either drive Israel into the sea or swamp it demographically. Unless by some miracle the other side's attitude undegoes a radical change, you will never see a Jewish state living in peace and harmony with its neighbors. I can't agree with Kovner that the existence of Israel contributes to the essential freedoms of Diaspora Jewry, "including in the United States." Latent anti-semitism is building here as a result of the perception that Israel is hurting U.S. interests. And need I mention European attitudes? The new anti-semitism isn't like the old; it's the existence of Israel that's causing it, fueling it. If American supporters of Israel adhere to the concept that all men and women are created equal, how can they support a Jewish state in Palestine -- a state in which non-Jews are by definintion second-class citizens? Supporters of Israel, both hardliners and "liberals" like Mr. Kovner, are caught in a web of self-contradiction. For God's sake give up the dream of Zion before it brings you to catastrophe! I feel bad for Mr. Kovner and all of you who support his views. All this talk of territorial compromise, etc. is pure pie in the sky. It’s rather like Roger Cohen being confronted with the question, “What would Hezbollah and Hamas do if they had weapons of mass destruction?” Of course he couldn’t answer, beyond saying “I don’t know.” But he does know; he’s too smart a guy.

Your instincts are right — a thousand times so — but the other side isn’t interested in a two-state solution. They mean to either drive Israel into the sea or swamp it demographically. Unless by some miracle the other side’s attitude undegoes a radical change, you will never see a Jewish state living in peace and harmony with its neighbors.

I can’t agree with Kovner that the existence of Israel contributes to the essential freedoms of Diaspora Jewry, “including in the United States.” Latent anti-semitism is building here as a result of the perception that Israel is hurting U.S. interests. And need I mention European attitudes? The new anti-semitism isn’t like the old; it’s the existence of Israel that’s causing it, fueling it.

If American supporters of Israel adhere to the concept that all men and women are created equal, how can they support a Jewish state in Palestine — a state in which non-Jews are by definintion second-class citizens? Supporters of Israel, both hardliners and “liberals” like Mr. Kovner, are caught in a web of self-contradiction. For God’s sake give up the dream of Zion before it brings you to catastrophe!

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