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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As for Israel, I doubt if they really care about Iran’s supposed nuclear weapons. They’ve got enough nukes to fry Iran. I think what they want is to seize Gaza, and they would do this during a war with Iran, and the world would barely notice.&quot; 

Eppie, you&#039;re wrong: it&#039;s all about Israel. Sure, Israel has 200 plus nuclear warheads. True it can fry Iran. But if Iran somehow gets a few, not nuclear weapons, but missiles with nuclear warheads Israel will be fried as well. Gaza was already under Israel occupation a few years ago. They left, but they sporadically re-enter Gaza to massacre it children.



If it has nothing to do with Israel, why is Likud&#039;s Nethayau, and traitors at AIPAC calling for war on Iran?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As for Israel, I doubt if they really care about Iran’s supposed nuclear weapons. They’ve got enough nukes to fry Iran. I think what they want is to seize Gaza, and they would do this during a war with Iran, and the world would barely notice.&#8221; </p>
<p>Eppie, you&#8217;re wrong: it&#8217;s all about Israel. Sure, Israel has 200 plus nuclear warheads. True it can fry Iran. But if Iran somehow gets a few, not nuclear weapons, but missiles with nuclear warheads Israel will be fried as well. Gaza was already under Israel occupation a few years ago. They left, but they sporadically re-enter Gaza to massacre it children.</p>
<p>If it has nothing to do with Israel, why is Likud&#8217;s Nethayau, and traitors at AIPAC calling for war on Iran?</p>
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		<title>By: darryl</title>
		<link>http://www.lobelog.com/fallons-fall-is-bad-news/comment-page-1/#comment-9310</link>
		<dc:creator>darryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you americans are fools   israel is running your war machine not these idiots in the military</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you americans are fools   israel is running your war machine not these idiots in the military</p>
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		<title>By: Binh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Binh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real question is, who will replace him? That will do more to determine whether or not an attack on Iran is more/less likely by the time Bush leaves office in Jan 2009 than Fallon&#039;s exit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question is, who will replace him? That will do more to determine whether or not an attack on Iran is more/less likely by the time Bush leaves office in Jan 2009 than Fallon&#8217;s exit.</p>
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		<title>By: epppie</title>
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		<dc:creator>epppie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I think you are a lot closer to the truth than noted Middle East expert Juan Cole, I think you are wrong to characterize Gates as a &quot;realist&quot;.  That could only be true in the most relative of terms.  Gates is primarily a &quot;yes man&quot;.  That is his primary credential, I would argue,  the main reason Bush accepted him as an alternative to Rumsfeld.  I think the same is true of Mullen, and the very fact that Fallon ended up being the guy carrying the ball  for the &#039;realist team&#039; confirms it about both men, I would say.  Don&#039;t you see that the Vanity Fair article was essentially right, even if it hyperventilated?  There are obviously many in the military who realize that the White House military policy, if you can call it that,  is whacked; but few are willing to resist or push back.
Remember, it isn&#039;t insubordination to push back against unwise policies.  It&#039;s insubordination to willfully and directly reject or undermine such policies while remaining in office.  Pushback against unwise policy is part of the role EXPECTED from those who have expertise.

I don&#039;t know Fallon and I might not like one thing about him if I did know him, but the overall curve of what has happened, so far as it can be discerned through what is reported publically,  seems obvious to me:  Fallon has resisted the warmongering obsession of this administration with Iraq and Iran to the extent consistent with his position and has reached the point where he would feel compelled to go beyond that level  of resistance and therefore has resigned, with a big push from the White House to encourage him.  That, in conjunction with  Cheney&#039;s mideast trip makes an attack on Iran a virtual certainty, I think, and soon.

It&#039;s just not credible to me that Cheney&#039;s trip is motivated by the concerns you suggest.  Those concerns, as important as they are, don&#039;t rise to his level.  They would properly  be handled through the State Department.

I think that the real reason for attacking Iran has nothing to do with nuclear weapons.  It&#039;s the same as the real (in my opinion) reason for attacking Iraq:  it&#039;s crucial to keep oil traded in dollars.  Without that, the dollar goes into free fall.  As it has so often been, in human history, it&#039;s about money, and money is about power, and power is about control over resources and the movement of resources.

As for Israel, I doubt if they really care about Iran&#039;s supposed nuclear weapons.  They&#039;ve got enough nukes to fry Iran.  I think what they want is to seize Gaza, and they would do this during a war with Iran, and the world would barely notice.  

The US wants to keep the dollar up and Israel wants Gaza.   I think it&#039;s pretty much as simple as that.   Fallon&#039;s departure makes me sick to my stomach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I think you are a lot closer to the truth than noted Middle East expert Juan Cole, I think you are wrong to characterize Gates as a &#8220;realist&#8221;.  That could only be true in the most relative of terms.  Gates is primarily a &#8220;yes man&#8221;.  That is his primary credential, I would argue,  the main reason Bush accepted him as an alternative to Rumsfeld.  I think the same is true of Mullen, and the very fact that Fallon ended up being the guy carrying the ball  for the &#8216;realist team&#8217; confirms it about both men, I would say.  Don&#8217;t you see that the Vanity Fair article was essentially right, even if it hyperventilated?  There are obviously many in the military who realize that the White House military policy, if you can call it that,  is whacked; but few are willing to resist or push back.<br />
Remember, it isn&#8217;t insubordination to push back against unwise policies.  It&#8217;s insubordination to willfully and directly reject or undermine such policies while remaining in office.  Pushback against unwise policy is part of the role EXPECTED from those who have expertise.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know Fallon and I might not like one thing about him if I did know him, but the overall curve of what has happened, so far as it can be discerned through what is reported publically,  seems obvious to me:  Fallon has resisted the warmongering obsession of this administration with Iraq and Iran to the extent consistent with his position and has reached the point where he would feel compelled to go beyond that level  of resistance and therefore has resigned, with a big push from the White House to encourage him.  That, in conjunction with  Cheney&#8217;s mideast trip makes an attack on Iran a virtual certainty, I think, and soon.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just not credible to me that Cheney&#8217;s trip is motivated by the concerns you suggest.  Those concerns, as important as they are, don&#8217;t rise to his level.  They would properly  be handled through the State Department.</p>
<p>I think that the real reason for attacking Iran has nothing to do with nuclear weapons.  It&#8217;s the same as the real (in my opinion) reason for attacking Iraq:  it&#8217;s crucial to keep oil traded in dollars.  Without that, the dollar goes into free fall.  As it has so often been, in human history, it&#8217;s about money, and money is about power, and power is about control over resources and the movement of resources.</p>
<p>As for Israel, I doubt if they really care about Iran&#8217;s supposed nuclear weapons.  They&#8217;ve got enough nukes to fry Iran.  I think what they want is to seize Gaza, and they would do this during a war with Iran, and the world would barely notice.  </p>
<p>The US wants to keep the dollar up and Israel wants Gaza.   I think it&#8217;s pretty much as simple as that.   Fallon&#8217;s departure makes me sick to my stomach.</p>
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		<title>By: JOHN DICKERSON</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOHN DICKERSON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In that respect, the juxtaposition of Fallon’s resignation with Cheney’s trip to the region has to be seen as particularly worrisome.&quot; WHY IS TURKEY ON CHENEY&#039;S ITINERARY ??????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In that respect, the juxtaposition of Fallon’s resignation with Cheney’s trip to the region has to be seen as particularly worrisome.&#8221; WHY IS TURKEY ON CHENEY&#8217;S ITINERARY ??????</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,
        I think you are operating under a false premise: Under the Bush regime I&#039;ve come to believe that Cheyney/Bush will do what it wants when it wants to. Fallon&#039;s resignation is  not an indicatior of who&#039;s winning a battle over a decision to go to war, but rather an indication of how far along in the journey to war we are.  I&#039;ve become a believer in predetermination.
Cheers
Bill Jones</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,<br />
        I think you are operating under a false premise: Under the Bush regime I&#8217;ve come to believe that Cheyney/Bush will do what it wants when it wants to. Fallon&#8217;s resignation is  not an indicatior of who&#8217;s winning a battle over a decision to go to war, but rather an indication of how far along in the journey to war we are.  I&#8217;ve become a believer in predetermination.<br />
Cheers<br />
Bill Jones</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, a little due dilligence on oil will show that we have reserves of both crude and refined gasoline at a 15 yr high.  We&#039;ve not had such reserves since Feb 1994.  Furthermore, gasoline consumption in the US is DOWN.  I know this is as shocking as hearing that Israel is not blameless but here too enfranchised interests get out before the media and the media does little reporting.

In Dec. 2004 DeutcheBank reported that we were then in &quot;Contango&quot; in the oil market.  Contango is when the futures prices exceed the spot price.  This means that the market is over-inflated.  If you will reflect a bit, shortly after this DeutcheBank report the Iran rhetoric started heating up.  I am not one to subscribe to single issue conspiracy theories but rather believe that these issues may add nuts to the sundae.  At the time oil was selling on the futures market at $65 per barrel though on the spot market it was selling for $10 less.  DeutcheBank reported that if oil didn&#039;t spike up to $77 many hedge funds would loose their assets.  

Well, oil spiked a bit with the Iran rhetoric but failed to hit the mark.  Shortly thereafter we saw the Lebanese conflagration which spiked the price to $75.  Still not enough.  

During all this time we saw Iraq&#039;s oil essentially completely off-line, Nigerian gulf problems were/are/will be there, even after Katrina we never saw a real scarcity of supply.  For the last 17 weeks we&#039;ve put a million+ barrels of both crude and refined gas into storage.  Even with these historic levels of gas in storage Sam Bodman lied to the American people.  And now Cheney is going to the Saudis asking them to pump more gas, there is no shortage just poor reporting, hedgefund traders running up the price.  These hedgefund traders are annonomous.  

A good reporter would look into this, are the Russians running the price up?  The big producers, are they buying are rebuying their own product raising the price with each transaction?  I find it completely insulting that we get a Congressional hearing on whether Serius and XM satallite radio merging represents a monopoly while we have some serious manipulation of the oil markets yet we can&#039;t get anti-trust hearings, can&#039;t get much clarity on the vertical integration of Exxon-Mobil et al.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, a little due dilligence on oil will show that we have reserves of both crude and refined gasoline at a 15 yr high.  We&#8217;ve not had such reserves since Feb 1994.  Furthermore, gasoline consumption in the US is DOWN.  I know this is as shocking as hearing that Israel is not blameless but here too enfranchised interests get out before the media and the media does little reporting.</p>
<p>In Dec. 2004 DeutcheBank reported that we were then in &#8220;Contango&#8221; in the oil market.  Contango is when the futures prices exceed the spot price.  This means that the market is over-inflated.  If you will reflect a bit, shortly after this DeutcheBank report the Iran rhetoric started heating up.  I am not one to subscribe to single issue conspiracy theories but rather believe that these issues may add nuts to the sundae.  At the time oil was selling on the futures market at $65 per barrel though on the spot market it was selling for $10 less.  DeutcheBank reported that if oil didn&#8217;t spike up to $77 many hedge funds would loose their assets.  </p>
<p>Well, oil spiked a bit with the Iran rhetoric but failed to hit the mark.  Shortly thereafter we saw the Lebanese conflagration which spiked the price to $75.  Still not enough.  </p>
<p>During all this time we saw Iraq&#8217;s oil essentially completely off-line, Nigerian gulf problems were/are/will be there, even after Katrina we never saw a real scarcity of supply.  For the last 17 weeks we&#8217;ve put a million+ barrels of both crude and refined gas into storage.  Even with these historic levels of gas in storage Sam Bodman lied to the American people.  And now Cheney is going to the Saudis asking them to pump more gas, there is no shortage just poor reporting, hedgefund traders running up the price.  These hedgefund traders are annonomous.  </p>
<p>A good reporter would look into this, are the Russians running the price up?  The big producers, are they buying are rebuying their own product raising the price with each transaction?  I find it completely insulting that we get a Congressional hearing on whether Serius and XM satallite radio merging represents a monopoly while we have some serious manipulation of the oil markets yet we can&#8217;t get anti-trust hearings, can&#8217;t get much clarity on the vertical integration of Exxon-Mobil et al.</p>
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