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		<title>By: Ames Tiedeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ames Tiedeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 12:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush failed to deal with Iran. I was 100% wrong. Will Obama do anything?

Those who think we can negotiate with Iran are fools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush failed to deal with Iran. I was 100% wrong. Will Obama do anything?</p>
<p>Those who think we can negotiate with Iran are fools.</p>
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		<title>By: Ames Tiedeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ames Tiedeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is just a matter of time until the U.S. bombs Iran.

I am 100% certain this will happen under the Bush Administration.

I favor this course of action. You cannot negotiate with the regime in Tehran. 

The Iranian Muslim has become impossible to deal with. The Iranians will never end their nuclear program until they are confronted wth all the air and sea power of the United States. It will be an interesting next 12 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is just a matter of time until the U.S. bombs Iran.</p>
<p>I am 100% certain this will happen under the Bush Administration.</p>
<p>I favor this course of action. You cannot negotiate with the regime in Tehran. </p>
<p>The Iranian Muslim has become impossible to deal with. The Iranians will never end their nuclear program until they are confronted wth all the air and sea power of the United States. It will be an interesting next 12 months.</p>
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		<title>By: manofyre</title>
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		<dc:creator>manofyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If once a man indulges in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination.&quot;

On Murder as One of the Fine Arts  ~ Thomas de Quincey

&quot;To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.&quot;

~ Robert H. Jackson (chief US prosecutor at Nuremberg)

The United States has become the rogue-est of rogue nations, and the Cheney/Bush administration an ongoing criminal conspiracy on a scale that should [pray: will] someday include them among human history&#039;s very worst actors.   Little King George and Lord Bruce have, essentially, ripped the head off of 750 years of established Law and &lt;em&gt;[edited for content]&lt;/em&gt; down its neck.  Why we are not now encircling the White House, en masse, and laying our bodies down to arrest these posers, these hucksters, these &quot;Mayberry Machiavellis,&quot; these war criminals . . . well,  it&#039;s a wonder.

Lust for blood (post 9/11 -- &quot;Gotta KILL, somebody!&quot;), and lust for oil -- that about sums it up, I suppose.  &quot;Market penetration,&quot; at the behest of Big Oil, by military means.  It&#039;s wicked, wicked sad.  Let&#039;s just hop in the SUV and go to the mall, eh?

Now Dick and George are itching to bomb Iran&#039;s nuclear facilities -- some of which are located in Tehran -- a metropolis of 12 million people!!!??? Maybe lob some &quot;tactical nukes&quot; in there, eh, because &quot;nothing is off the table.&quot;

100&#039;s of thousands dead, tortured, murdered, and 4 million &quot;displaced&quot; in Iraq . . .  Now it&#039;s Iran&#039;s turn.

My own heart and mind are exploding already, confronting this open, obvious madness -- mass murdering madness.

Michael (&quot;Faster please!&quot;) Ledeen &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ledeen#Yellowcake_forgery_allegations&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;linked&lt;/a&gt; to the yellowcake forgery.

Insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If once a man indulges in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination.&#8221;</p>
<p>On Murder as One of the Fine Arts  ~ Thomas de Quincey</p>
<p>&#8220;To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.&#8221;</p>
<p>~ Robert H. Jackson (chief US prosecutor at Nuremberg)</p>
<p>The United States has become the rogue-est of rogue nations, and the Cheney/Bush administration an ongoing criminal conspiracy on a scale that should [pray: will] someday include them among human history&#8217;s very worst actors.   Little King George and Lord Bruce have, essentially, ripped the head off of 750 years of established Law and <em>[edited for content]</em> down its neck.  Why we are not now encircling the White House, en masse, and laying our bodies down to arrest these posers, these hucksters, these &#8220;Mayberry Machiavellis,&#8221; these war criminals . . . well,  it&#8217;s a wonder.</p>
<p>Lust for blood (post 9/11 &#8212; &#8220;Gotta KILL, somebody!&#8221;), and lust for oil &#8212; that about sums it up, I suppose.  &#8220;Market penetration,&#8221; at the behest of Big Oil, by military means.  It&#8217;s wicked, wicked sad.  Let&#8217;s just hop in the SUV and go to the mall, eh?</p>
<p>Now Dick and George are itching to bomb Iran&#8217;s nuclear facilities &#8212; some of which are located in Tehran &#8212; a metropolis of 12 million people!!!??? Maybe lob some &#8220;tactical nukes&#8221; in there, eh, because &#8220;nothing is off the table.&#8221;</p>
<p>100&#8217;s of thousands dead, tortured, murdered, and 4 million &#8220;displaced&#8221; in Iraq . . .  Now it&#8217;s Iran&#8217;s turn.</p>
<p>My own heart and mind are exploding already, confronting this open, obvious madness &#8212; mass murdering madness.</p>
<p>Michael (&#8220;Faster please!&#8221;) Ledeen <a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ledeen#Yellowcake_forgery_allegations" rel="nofollow">linked</a> to the yellowcake forgery.</p>
<p>Insane.</p>
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		<title>By: Montag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Montag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least Ledeen resisted the urge to use the term &quot;Mad Mullahs&quot; in his title.  Although it would have been truth in advertising as to the ideological fanaticism of his screed--projection you know!  But &quot;Mullah Zealots&quot; doesn&#039;t quite have the same panache to it, particularly since the original Zealots were Jews!  Isn&#039;t that a bit like saying, &quot;Jumbo Shrimp?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least Ledeen resisted the urge to use the term &#8220;Mad Mullahs&#8221; in his title.  Although it would have been truth in advertising as to the ideological fanaticism of his screed&#8211;projection you know!  But &#8220;Mullah Zealots&#8221; doesn&#8217;t quite have the same panache to it, particularly since the original Zealots were Jews!  Isn&#8217;t that a bit like saying, &#8220;Jumbo Shrimp?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David Sketchley</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Sketchley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its laughable that the AEI call Ledeen a &#039;scholar&#039;. I mean he can&#039;t even get elementary facts straight. In the excerpt linked to above he states:

&quot;Shortly after the revolution, in November 1979, Iranian-supported &quot;pilgrims&quot; on the Hajj in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, occupied the Grand Mosque, took several hundred hostages, and called for the overthrow of the ruling Saudi family.&quot;


Of course this actually took place in July 1987, if we are to believe GlobalSecurity.org:

&quot;In July 1987, however, more than 400 people died as a result of a serious riot instigated by thousands of Iranian pilgrims. Khomeini called for the overthrow of the Saudi royal family to avenge the pilgrims&#039; deaths.&quot;
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/gulf/mecca.htm

In fact 402 people, mostly Iranian pilgrims, were killed and 649 wounded when security forces clashed with Iranians staging an anti- U.S. demonstration.
http://www.stolaf.edu/people/leming/soc265rel/news/April_17.html

The November 20, 1979  incident had nothing to do with Iran. According to GlobalSecurity.org  &quot;at least 500 dissidents invaded and seized the Grand Mosque in Mecca on November 20, 1979. The leader of the dissidents, Juhaiman ibn Muhammad ibn Saif al Utaiba, a Sunni, was from one of the foremost families of Najd. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nejd ) His grandfather had ridden with Abd al Aziz in the early decades of the century, and other family members were among the foremost of the Ikhwan. Juhaiman said that his justification was that the Al Saud had lost its legitimacy through corruption, ostentation, and mindless imitation of the West--virtually an echo of his grandfather&#039;s charge in 1921 against Abd al Aziz. Juhaiman&#039;s accusations against the Saudi monarchy closely resembled Ayatollah Ruhollah Musaui, Khomeini&#039;s diatribes against the shah.&quot;
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/gulf/mecca.htm

So the &#039;scholar&#039; manages to interpret the resemblance of Abd al Aziz. Juhaiman&#039;s accusations to the Ayatollah Khomeini&#039;s diatribes against the shah as being proof that the &quot;&quot;pilgrms&quot; were &quot;Iranian-supported&quot;.

It would be laughable if it wasn&#039;t criminal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its laughable that the AEI call Ledeen a &#8217;scholar&#8217;. I mean he can&#8217;t even get elementary facts straight. In the excerpt linked to above he states:</p>
<p>&#8220;Shortly after the revolution, in November 1979, Iranian-supported &#8220;pilgrims&#8221; on the Hajj in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, occupied the Grand Mosque, took several hundred hostages, and called for the overthrow of the ruling Saudi family.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course this actually took place in July 1987, if we are to believe GlobalSecurity.org:</p>
<p>&#8220;In July 1987, however, more than 400 people died as a result of a serious riot instigated by thousands of Iranian pilgrims. Khomeini called for the overthrow of the Saudi royal family to avenge the pilgrims&#8217; deaths.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/gulf/mecca.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/gulf/mecca.htm</a></p>
<p>In fact 402 people, mostly Iranian pilgrims, were killed and 649 wounded when security forces clashed with Iranians staging an anti- U.S. demonstration.<br />
<a href="http://www.stolaf.edu/people/leming/soc265rel/news/April_17.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.stolaf.edu/people/leming/soc265rel/news/April_17.html</a></p>
<p>The November 20, 1979  incident had nothing to do with Iran. According to GlobalSecurity.org  &#8220;at least 500 dissidents invaded and seized the Grand Mosque in Mecca on November 20, 1979. The leader of the dissidents, Juhaiman ibn Muhammad ibn Saif al Utaiba, a Sunni, was from one of the foremost families of Najd. ( <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nejd" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nejd</a> ) His grandfather had ridden with Abd al Aziz in the early decades of the century, and other family members were among the foremost of the Ikhwan. Juhaiman said that his justification was that the Al Saud had lost its legitimacy through corruption, ostentation, and mindless imitation of the West&#8211;virtually an echo of his grandfather&#8217;s charge in 1921 against Abd al Aziz. Juhaiman&#8217;s accusations against the Saudi monarchy closely resembled Ayatollah Ruhollah Musaui, Khomeini&#8217;s diatribes against the shah.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/gulf/mecca.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/gulf/mecca.htm</a></p>
<p>So the &#8217;scholar&#8217; manages to interpret the resemblance of Abd al Aziz. Juhaiman&#8217;s accusations to the Ayatollah Khomeini&#8217;s diatribes against the shah as being proof that the &#8220;&#8221;pilgrms&#8221; were &#8220;Iranian-supported&#8221;.</p>
<p>It would be laughable if it wasn&#8217;t criminal.</p>
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		<title>By: peace advocate</title>
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		<dc:creator>peace advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The neocons put Israel interests ahead of American interests and definitely ahead of the lives of members of the American military.
When is the rest of America going to wake up to this fact? If they do, when are they going to do something about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The neocons put Israel interests ahead of American interests and definitely ahead of the lives of members of the American military.<br />
When is the rest of America going to wake up to this fact? If they do, when are they going to do something about it?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Jim Lobe for yet another incisive analysis, this one a disturbing anticipation of the calculated campaign to rally support for yet another war of choice.  There is as much coherence and cogency in Pletka&#039;s Iran divestment position, it seems, as there is in Bush&#039;s recent pronouncement before the VFW that the lessons of Vietnam warrant staying the course in Iraq.

One inadvertent error in the third paragraph merits editing, however.  In the fourth line, Mr. Lobe writes Iraq instead of Iran: &quot;. . . AEI and other hawks (including the vice president’s office) are trying to achieve between their two top priorities at the moment – sustaining the Surge well into next year and rallying Congress and the public behind an attack on Iraq [sic] before the end of Bush’s term . . . .&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Jim Lobe for yet another incisive analysis, this one a disturbing anticipation of the calculated campaign to rally support for yet another war of choice.  There is as much coherence and cogency in Pletka&#8217;s Iran divestment position, it seems, as there is in Bush&#8217;s recent pronouncement before the VFW that the lessons of Vietnam warrant staying the course in Iraq.</p>
<p>One inadvertent error in the third paragraph merits editing, however.  In the fourth line, Mr. Lobe writes Iraq instead of Iran: &#8220;. . . AEI and other hawks (including the vice president’s office) are trying to achieve between their two top priorities at the moment – sustaining the Surge well into next year and rallying Congress and the public behind an attack on Iraq [sic] before the end of Bush’s term . . . .&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: edc</title>
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		<dc:creator>edc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you no doubt meant to indicate &quot;Iran&quot; in paragraph three:

...the Surge well into next year and rallying Congress and the public behind an attack on Iraq before the end of Bush’s term,

&lt;em&gt;[Editors note: Thanks!]&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you no doubt meant to indicate &#8220;Iran&#8221; in paragraph three:</p>
<p>&#8230;the Surge well into next year and rallying Congress and the public behind an attack on Iraq before the end of Bush’s term,</p>
<p><em>[Editors note: Thanks!]</em></p>
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		<title>By: Rowan Berkeley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rowan Berkeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 05:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s playing &quot;soft cop&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s playing &#8220;soft cop&#8221;.</p>
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